Did Jesus Become a Sinner on the Cross? Was He actually “Forsaken” on the cross?
But What I do want to address here is the often made statement by an increasing number of preachers, pastors, etc., that Jesus Christ actually BECAME a Sinner on the cross and using Psalm 22:1 as a supporting text. My friend did this, and the following is my response
“Hi, I’ve been blessed thru your sharing the Word in such beautiful, artistic ways. Thanks for your ministry.
However, re this specific graphic focusing on Jesus being “forsaken” by the Father and actually “becoming sin” (a sinner?? ) for us, I have serious questions to the accuracy of such statements( conclusions.” ) For instance, Psalm 22. You quote only the opening verse. But if you go down to the closing verses, wouldn’t it be more accurate to say that Jesus FELT abandoned, but really was not and that God did hear and answer His prayer on the cross?;
“Save me from the mouth of the lion! You have rescued me from the horns of the wild oxen!
For he has not despised or abhorred the affliction of the afflicted, and he has not hidden his face from him, but has heard, when he cried to him.
Posterity shall serve him; it shall be told of the Lord to the coming generation; they shall come and proclaim his righteousness to a people yet unborn, that he has done it.”
Psalms 22:21, 24, 30-31 ESV
http://bible.com/59/psa.22.21,24,30-31.esv
I understand that on the Jewish culture, when a portion of Scripture, especially the Psalms, it was understood by the heaters that the entire Psalm was being addressed. Thus, Jesus was actually quoting the entire Psalm, which therefore actually speaks of both His death and resurrection, meaning that, even on the cross, He was assured of His resurrection. So, really, Psalm 22 could be a Psalm of Triumph, rather than “abandonment” or “Being forsaken.”
Hebrews 5:7 seems to affirm this:
“While Jesus was here on earth, he offered prayers and pleadings, with a loud cry and tears, to the one who could rescue him from death. And God heard his prayers because of his deep reverence for God.”
Hebrews 5:7 NLT
http://bible.com/116/heb.5.7.nlt
Also, re “being made sin for us,” [ 2 Cor. 5:21] is not the more accurate translation [in context] “being made a sin-offering for us?”
Thanks again for your ministry.
Selah!
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